A monthly podcast for trend followers

With Ben Lichtenstein and Jerry Parker

Trend and Turtle is a long-form podcast and real-time trading experiment that revisits one of the most influential ideas in market history: that great traders are made, not born.

Hosted by veteran financial journalist Ben Lichtenstein, the series documents his shift from decades of market commentary to systematic trend following — guided by Jerry Parker, one of the original Turtle Traders.

Join us as we educate, entertain, and inspire through the realities of rules-based trading, discipline, and long-term thinking.

Latest Episode - Position Sizing, Risk, and Letting Profits Run
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Season One - Episode Four

Position Sizing, Risk, and Letting Profits Run

Episode 4 Ben continues his journey from discretionary trading to a rules-based, systematic approach — examining position sizing, risk, and the discipline required to let profits run.

Process over prediction.

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Episode 1 - From Floor To Shore


The premiere episode of Trend and Turtle. The journey begins.

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Episode 2 - Becoming A Modern Day Turtle Trader

Process over prediction. Rules Over emotion

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Episode 3 - Trend Following Plus Nothing

Discretionary trading to a rules-based, systematic approach

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Trailing Stops and Where to Place Them

Have multiple exits and why

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Trading psychology – wins, losses, drawdowns

Learn to love your trading system

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Season Ending Look Ahead to Season 2

Season 1 Takeaways - Season 2 Preview

Who we are - How we got here - Where we're headed... Trend and Turtle began with a simple question...



What happens when a market commentator stops talking—and starts trading by the rules?

For more than three decades, Ben Lichtenstein built a career explaining markets from the inside. From the trading floors of the CME and CBOT to anchoring daily live market shows on the Schwab Network, Ben’s role was to observe, analyze, and interpret price action in real time.

But commentary is not commitment.


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